RE: Commercials Re: Psychopathic Uploads and other SIs

From: Woody Long (
Date: Fri Feb 17 2006 - 13:09:25 MST


It should be remembered that Rick Geniale did not first post to hype
anything. He posted IN RESPONSE to an SL4 list post that completely trashed
his AI system without a shred of evidence. And that's bad for business so
of course he responded. So there is no need to bash Rick Geniale or treat
him as a leper. As for me, I am a patent pending inventor who has released
as much propriety information as I can. My posts were however never for the
purpose of hype but for the purpose of securing a universally respected,
friendly, "safe built" strong AI / conscious machine industry. Right now
people have an extreme fear of the industry that could make for a very
hard take off that wrecks the industry in the public eye. I'd like to have
answers to those fears, and that is what I'm here to learn. All of us need
to work together to bring about the beneficial future we all want. I can
assure you, I haven't and won't be discussing my invention on this list.

Ken Woody Long
Artificial Lifeforms Lab LLC

> [Original Message]
> From: Brian Atkins <>
> To: <>
> Date: 2/17/2006 2:40:32 PM
> Subject: Commercials Re: Psychopathic Uploads and other SIs
> I'm not fond of the idea of SL4 collecting over time a group of inventors
> small companies forever hyping month after month, year after year, "AGIs"
> are either forever vaporware or more likely turn out to be some form of
> AI project that has little or zero relevance to this discussion forum.
> I humbly suggest to the list owner and snipers that they might consider
> requiring anyone who posts here claiming that they have developed an AGI
> convincingly demonstrate it within a month, or be banned forthwith.
> Note, this is different than claiming you're simply working on an AGI,
but one
> that isn't done. However, even for folks who are simply just working on
> standard list quality guidelines should apply. If you bring up your own
> in a post, your post should contain some interesting technical details or
> arguments, and not simple contentless posturing and claims.
> My opinion only of course.
> --
> Brian Atkins
> Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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