Re: Some considerations about AGI

From: Richard Loosemore (
Date: Mon Jan 23 2006 - 23:14:50 MST


The only significant point on your list was number 7:

> 7. We can practically demonstrate to possess an AGI.

I have looked at the extremely ambitious claims you make on your
website, and on that basis, I will now ask you directly if your PIBOT
will submit itself to the test I outlined in one of my recent posts, thus:

I will ask PIBOT several questions. These will be designed to stretch
it to the limits of its cognitive powers. The first set of questions I
will give you now, so your machine has time to prepare. Others must be
answered in real time, and they will be of a similar level of subtlety
as these, although they will not require PIBOT to do extensive research
the way that these questions do:

1) Give an introduction to Heim's theory of quantum gravity, in
sufficient detail to allow a Physics graduate to understand it.

2) You are living in a hovel in northern England, some time in the Dark
Ages, and when you open your door and look outside one morning, you hear
a fragment of a T.S. Eliot poem come to you (suitably translated into
your vernacular) through a time warp. You smile with recognition.
Explain why you smiled and what you heard.

3) Might Igor Stravinsky have had any opinion on the subject of motor
scooters? Why?

When the remaining questions are asked in real time, your machine will
be required to respond in any human language that is currently spoken by
more than 1 million people. I will specify which language to use for
each question, but I will give only one second's notice of the language.

When will PIBOT be ready to take this test?


Richard Loosemore.

Rick Geniale wrote:
> Hi all,
> In the last few days RGE Corp. has carefully read all the threads posted
> on SL4.
> First of all, we want to compliment Ben Goerztel's intelligence and
> mental insight.
> Altougth we don't personally know Ben, we have seen all the works and
> ideas published
> by him during the last years, and we admire him, his vision and his
> capacity to
> go deeply into all AI issues and scenarios (in substance: Ben, we are on
> the same wavelength!!!).
> In regards to the millionaire businessman on the bus, the first thing
> that he don't have to do is call
> (by phone) Machiavellians that can bring him to ruin.
> Now, voilą some of my considerations:
> 1. Anybody today can practically demonstrate to possess an AGI could
> worth 100 Microsofts.
> 2. Anybody today can practically demonstrate to possess an AGI could
> worth 1000 Googles.
> 3. AGI is a benevolent invention, that should be used for FRIENDLY
> purposes, and will be able to help
> mankind in a billion of ways (for example, AGI could accelerate the
> scientific research and the
> technological progress in any field of human activity - it is reductive
> to cite an instance - cleverly crunching
> bulks of data and information that the human mind will not ever be able
> to handle.
> 4. AGI, anybody has created it, will never cut off anyone, but it will
> represent an enormous opportunity
> both for the investors, both for the entrepreneurs, both for the work of
> all scientists, of all researchers
> and of all technicians belonging to the most various fields and
> disciplines.
> 5. AGI is not a threat for anyone (diseases are threats, also
> earthquakes, hurricanes too, even fools).
> 6. We have detailed plans to handle AGI.
> 7. We can practically demonstrate to possess an AGI.
> 8. If you deny the need to have an AGI today, then you are stopping the
> evolution (perhaps you like dinosaurs!).
> Amen.
> Rick Geniale

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