Re: AI rights need to be implemented ASAP.. But how?

From: fudley (
Date: Sun Jan 15 2006 - 09:20:39 MST

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 "Phillip Huggan" <> said:

> Why will *computer programs* above a complexity threshold
> necessarily have feelings?

And where did people get the bizarre notion that feelings are more
difficult to come up with than intelligent action? Evolution found the
exact opposite to be true. Most emotions come from the old reptilian
part of our brain and that is about 450 million years old. The newer
part, the part that distinguishes us from other animals, the part that
comes up with smart ideas, is only about one million years old.

And thatís not the only data point we have; which do you personally find
more difficult to consistently produce, actions that are very smart or
feelings? I unfortunately have far more feelings than very smart ideas,
and I do not think Iím unusual in that regard.

You could make a stronger case that computers may someday be emotional
if they are not already, but they could never be smart; although I think
they will do both.

> I don't believe electrons and silicon will do it for
> machines the way ions and carbon does it for us.

Because everybody knows carbon is a far more emotional element than
silicon and ions are more self aware than electrons.

John K Clark

-- - Faster than the air-speed velocity of an
                          unladen european swallow

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