Re: impotent disorganized gods?

From: Mike Dougherty (
Date: Tue Dec 27 2005 - 12:04:31 MST

Agreed. If/when there ever is a day in my lifetime that people are
enhancing their wetware with embedded technology, I think they should have
to wear "intel inside" or "runs on windows" stickers so we can identify
them. Considering the currently accepted level of security and stability of
commercially available technology, I would not trust that a bus driver would
not suddenly BSOD and end up killing a bus load of people - or perhaps is
'hacked' by a terrorist (for a contrived example meant only to create a
scary situation)

How come everyone is not psychic/telepathic? Maybe we are. Maybe the data
processing subsystems of the majority are so poorly developed that the best
we get is a hunch or intuitive sense about something. If (super-) mental
skills were prioritized above motor skills in early child development, kids
may be expressing their needs very differently. Unfortunately many parents
are oblivious to their children's clearly expressed needs; asking them to be
aware of more subtle metal/telepathic communication is nearly impossible.
(.. and would probably be considered illegally negligent by child services)

On 12/26/05, Phillip Huggan <> wrote:
> Yes. Survival of the fittest is wrong if the fitness parameters are
> assigned by or under the reasonable control of, moral agents. Evolution and
> ecosystems are value neutral but inventions or capital accumulations can be
> very right or very wrong, all else equal.
> What if destroying us is not similiar to database deletion? What if our
> crappy tools we use to resolve our "consciousness data" (whatever that
> means) aren't good enough to capture the physics of what makes us sentient?
> What if the process of "transfering" (how exactly?) our personal identities
> to backup hard-drives and then back, results in killing off our personal
> identies? I'm pretty sure our consciousness is an emergent property of the
> physics of our central nervous systems; probably EM interactions of some
> sort. We are smart enough to and should override the naturally occuring
> mistake of assuming Strong-AI is responsible for our sent! ience (it isn't.
> If it were, how come everyone isn't psychic?). Of course, if the hard-drive
> backups utilized a Type VII civilization multiverse
> generator thing-a-ma-jing of the kind described in another sl4 thread a few
> days ago, it's a whole new ball of wax.
> *Mike Dougherty <>* wrote:
> the concept of "inherently wrong" is unqualified. Is "survival of the
> fittest" inherently wrong?
> if "destroying us" is conceptually similar to a database record deletion,
> then it may be a naturally occurring feature of the larger system in which
> this event takes place.
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