**From:** H C (*lphege@hotmail.com*)

**Date:** Tue Nov 08 2005 - 21:24:11 MST

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*>From: Michael Wilson <mwdestinystar@yahoo.co.uk>
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*>Reply-To: sl4@sl4.org
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*>To: sl4@sl4.org
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*>Subject: Re: the ways of child prodigies
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*>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 03:10:25 +0000 (GMT)
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*>Michael Vassar wrote:
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*> >> SIAI needs persons with expertise in computers and cognitive studies
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*> >> (roughly). Persons with expertise in pure maths or physics could be
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*> >> useful, but not particularly.
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*> >
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*> > SIAI needs geniuses in pure logic and applied rationality. The computer
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*> > and cog-sci stuff are only needed at the ordinary "expert" level,
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*> > though more is better.
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*>I would say that the SIAI needs both, ideally in the same person, but as
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*>that's not terribly realistic a mix of expertise in these areas would be
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*>best.
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*>Prodigies in maths tend to be vulnerable to an acute form of an affliction
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*>that many great mathematicians suffer from, which is to consider every
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*>other piece of science and engineering merely applied maths and thus
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*>necessarily trivial compared to what they're doing. This manifests as a
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*>belief that since they are good at manipulating some piece of maths,
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*>they must also be experts in any field that relies on that kind of maths
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*>(in practice or in their own minds). Extreme focused expertise in
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*>abstracting away implementation detail can be counterproductive when it
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*>comes to interacting with the real world.
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Seeing as how abstract mathematical concepts are strictly useless (except as

some sort of "cognitive exercise") unless being used for an explicit

necessary purpose; it seems as though mathematics as a separate field

entirely outside of computer science is at best *potentially* useful, while

more realistically *a waste of time*. This doesn't include situations where

you recognize a specific mathematical field being necessary for background

foundational knowledge for a more specific implementation problem (such that

the utility of *knowing* abstract mathematical concepts is entirely derived

from a specific implementation necessity).

*> * Michael Wilson
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