RE: Shock Level 5 (SL5) - 'The Theory Of Everything'

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Wed Aug 17 2005 - 07:03:57 MDT

> A paper-clip maximizer would be blocked by Godel,
> since it couldn't have full self-awareness and hence
> couldn't recursively self-improve.

Godelian arguments can show, at most, that for any finite computational
system there is some limit (of theorem-proving power) beyond which
self-improvement can't lead the system.

However, this limit can be vastly larger than anything comprehensible by
humans, and certainly more than enough to cause our destruction in a manner
similar to us stepping on an ant colony...

So, Godelian arguments are obviously no use for FAI...

-- Ben G

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