From: Robin Lee Powell (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Thu Jul 14 2005 - 13:56:40 MDT
On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 03:28:17PM -0400, Ben Goertzel wrote:
> > > Eli, this clearly isn't true, and I think it's a
> > > poorly-thought-out statement on your part.
> > >
> > > For instance, consider
> > >
> > > Goal A: Maximize the entropy of the universe, as rapidly as
> > > possible.
> > >
> > > Goal B: Maximize the joy, freedom and growth potential of all
> > > sentient beings in the universe
> > Saying "sentient beings" instead of "humanity" is a cop-out,
> > Ben. For our purposes, they are identical.
> Well, I think that when Eliezer said "humanity" he probably really
> meant "humanity." So I won't take your reply as a proxy for
> How about
> Goal C: Migrate to the Andromeda galaxy and use all the
> mass-energy there to advance mathematics, science and technology
> as far as possible; but leave the Milky Way galaxy alone, ensuring
> that it evolves over time very similarly to what would happen if
> no superhuman AI ever existed.
> This goal also doesn't mention humanity explicitly, yet seems much
> less dangerous than goal A.
(yes, I know this is a reversal:)
Less dangerous to us, but what about all the sentient beings in the
Andromeda galaxy? :-)
> Of course, you could argue that the Milky Way here is serving as a
> proxy for humanity; but, for sure, humanity is not being
> explicitly mentioned...
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