**From:** Ben Goertzel (*ben@goertzel.org*)

**Date:** Sat May 28 2005 - 22:08:59 MDT

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*> > A word of advice: don't waste your time
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*> > with the "philosophy of science". (1) Bayes already presents a
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*> > solution to the "problem" of induction. (2) Bayes presents a
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*> > quantitative "Occam's Razor", obviating the need for determining
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*> > which hypothesis is simpler.
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*> >
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*> > The applied Bayesian-statistician daily makes use of these
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*> > solutions, while the philosophers will continue to argue about
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*> > these solved problems for decades to come.
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*> >
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*> > When you have the calculus of science, of what use is the
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*> > philosophy of it?
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As an aside, I don't agree with the obsessive focus on "Bayes rule" that I

observe in some members of this list.

Probability theory is a very valuable tool, and Bayes theorem is one

important consequence of the axioms of probability theory, but it's only one

useful theorem among many.

Often "Bayesian" is used as a shorthand for "probabilistic/statistical

methods that don't make bogus assumptions regarding underlying probability

distributions." I agree that one shouldn't make bogus assumptions regarding

underlying probability distributions -- as if often done in standard

parametric statistics -- but once one throws these assumptions out, there

are lots of nice probabilistic tools one can use instead, not just Bayes

rule.

-- Ben G

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