From: Daniel Radetsky (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sun Mar 13 2005 - 12:01:47 MST
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:31:40 +0200
"Kaj Sotala" <Xuenay@sci.fi> wrote:
> Any code written by humans is bound to have plenty of bugs
> and ways of doing something in a suboptimal fashion.
Yes, but from this it does not necessarily follow that
> An AI programmed for recursive self-improvement will find these
> and be able to reason that humans are fallible when writing
since this ignores the most important part of my argument, namely that the AI
would not necessarily have any conception of "humans" in the first place. It
wouldn't even have a notion of, "Whatever it was that created me." It would just
know, "I am imperfect." I agree that if it were to reason to the existence of
humans, and to their imperfection in writing code then
> It wouldn't be a huge step to generalize this into humans
> being fallible in other things as well, and thus prone to being
but the first step is a big jump, and I don't think a lot of people understand
> An alternate way for an RSI-capable AI to reason the same
> would be to compare its own functioning before and after
> making changes to itself. It would see that the changes led to
> it being able to process information better or worse than
Probably, but again, I don't think that from this, it follows that
> This would imply that other beings would also have
> different information processing capabilities, depending on
> the level of self-improvement they were capable of.
because "other beings" may not be a concept that the AI is familiar with.
> Beings with an inferior information processing capability could be
> manipulated by one with a superior capability.
And I'm not sure this is always true. I think that if I have a sufficiently
strong understanding of the set of probabilities involved in a situation, then
while you can see to it that I can't make a reliable guess, you can't make it
so I think I'm making a reliable guess when I'm actually not. But this point
isn't as important as the previous ones.
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