From: Tennessee Leeuwenburg (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Mon Feb 21 2005 - 16:10:56 MST
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"1) Skynet becomes self-aware and eats us"
|> I am only worried about (1). I can imagine (3) happening, but I
|> don't object to it. Survival of the fittest is how I got here,
|> and damned if I'm going to starve to death for the sake of some
|> rats. I think it's fair enough to apply the same standard to
|> something smarter and higher on the food chain.
| I used to think that too, until I thought about it a bit more
| clearly and realized that the end point of evolution would not be
If the end point of evolutions is not sentient we are screwed, if it
is sentient we are safe, subject on both sides to the vaguaries of
horizon problems. This is a truism if you believe that all
evolutionary paths are eventually explored. Evolution is not a
circumventable process, we can only do our best to build a fittest
organism which is interesting rather than not.
| Let survival of the fittest run to its ultimate conclusion and
| you'll have something that might be considered intelligent - at
| least, it'll be better than any human at solving some types of
| engineering problems, for example - but there will be nothing it
| will be like to be that thing. There'll be a universe full of
| marvellously intricate, optimally self-replicating nanomachinery -
| and nobody there to make use of it.
| Still happy with that?
I don't accept that there is a >5% probability of it being true that
nanomachines are the end point of evolution. My actual estimate would
be far less, closer to .05%. Just to pick numbers intuitively, of
course, yet informed by available information.
|> * We should realise that evolution can be made to work for us by
|> building an AGI ecosystem, and thus forcing the AGI to survive
|> only by working for the common interest
| And the above is why doing things on this basis turns out to be
| such a horribly bad idea.
1) Humans are social organisms and have competed on a group basis
2) Therefore morality
Corrolory: linking the survival of an organism to moral behaviour is
the best way to ensure the continued presence of morality in future
generations of that species.
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