Re: When does it pay to play (lottery)?

From: Eliezer Yudkowsky (
Date: Mon Jan 24 2005 - 16:58:55 MST

David Clark wrote:
> I don't mean to sound so harsh to Eliezer's philosophical approach but
> designs and philosophy are admirable goals but if we are talking about a
> software system that works in the real world, then what you see is what
> matters. Even if most of the plan was on paper but *something* was in
> software, my complaint would be retracted. I also haven't started to
> actually write my AI code so this same criticism also applies to me.

Even as we speak, plenty of running AI code is trading commodities, playing
chess, filtering spam, etc. I could easily implement some standard AI
algorithm, and lo, I would have running code. Lots of people with running
code out there. Creating AGI is harder than that. Judging by history,
running code in a limited AI domain is not good reason to think that the
project can go the rest of the way. And even if one had assurance that
project X would create AGI, FAI is an entirely different order of problem,
which subsumes the AGI problem and piles additional requirements on top.

And this problem I shall solve as swiftly as I can, avoiding detours, even
detours for the sake of pride. I, an individual blessed with an
individual's abilities, as distinct from you and your abilities as an
individual, currently judge that I can think faster than I can program.
Your advice has been noted and you do not need to repeat it to me again.
Thank you.

Eliezer S. Yudkowsky                
Research Fellow, Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence

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