RE: Human mind not Turing computable according to Eliezer?

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Thu Oct 07 2004 - 19:34:52 MDT


Barbour's view is considerably subtler than traditional entropy-based views
of time, and doesn't really have entropy as a central concept. I think his
book is a very good one.

Another very good book on time & physics is "Time and Chance," by David
Albert. His position is not quite identical to Barbour's, and in some ways
I think he's more insightful, though he's more hesitant to take a definitive
point of view...

Clearly there are subtle truths in this area that no one has yet understood.

-- Ben G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: []On Behalf Of Christian
> Szegedy
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:36 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Human mind not Turing computable according to Eliezer?
> Eliezer Yudkowsky wrote:
> > The notion of timeless physics is explained at length (and *extremely*
> > attractively, in my humble nonphysicist's opinion) in Julian Barbour's
> > "The End of Time".
> I did not told that I intuitively do not agree with an entropy based
> view of time. (I do not definitely know whether this is what the
> book is about, but I would guess).
> Still, I would never say that X.Y. is not right since the the universe
> is so and so.
> How could I dare?

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