From: mike99 (mike99@lascruces.com)
Date: Fri Jul 02 2004 - 13:43:03 MDT
I have had the same qualms about the nature of qualia that Eugen expresses
here. It has always seemed tautological to assert that subjectivity (or
qualia) must be special because it feels special to the one who experiences
it. Better than the way I have just put it, though, is what Eugen wrote:
"Experiences only look special from the inside of the system."
I'd like to use that as a tag line in my sig, with credit given to its
author. OK Eugen?
Regards,
Michael LaTorra
mike99@lascruces.com
mlatorra@nmsu.edu
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sl4@sl4.org [mailto:owner-sl4@sl4.org]On Behalf Of Eugen
> Leitl
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:24 AM
> To: sl4@sl4.org
> Subject: Re: Geddes's 'Moral Perturbation Theory'
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 06:30:15PM +0800, Metaqualia wrote:
>
> > It is neither an assumption nor something I need to prove -
> they are just
> > there.
>
> So is everything else. Experiences only look special from the
> inside of the
> system; making neurons spiking extra super special from
> microvilli digesting makes not
> much sense. They're all processes in a physical system.
>
> I always suspected people who use nebulous terms like qualia believe in
> magic. Apparently, at least some of them do.
>
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