From: fudley (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Fri May 28 2004 - 10:17:46 MDT
On Fri, 28 May 2004 "Ben Goertzel" <email@example.com> said:
>> So, you're saying "conscious agents" will make sounds with
>> their mouths that "non conscious agents" would find imposable
>> to mimic with their mouths. Why? And exactly what are these
>> unique sounds?
Ben Goertzel" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>No, I'm saying that the REPORTED INTENSITY OF AWARENESS
>as reported by people
Translation: The noise produced by people with their mouth.
>will be greater when brain imaging shows a
>greater amount of new pattern emerging in their brains.
My question remains the same, why couldn’t a suitably programmed non
conscious Turing Machine produce exactly the same noise?
>It does not address the question of the "ultimate reality"
>of the reported experiential phenomena.
I agree, it does not tell you if the subjects are actually conscious or
not. So what’s the point?
John K Clark
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