From: Marc Geddes (marc_geddes@yahoo.co.nz)
Date: Thu May 27 2004 - 22:30:08 MDT
 --- Eliezer Yudkowsky <sentience@pobox.com> wrote: > 
> 
> The fact that needs explaining is:  "Why do people
> believe they are 
> conscious?"  When David Chalmers says "I have
> qualia", air vibrates, his 
> lips move, a physical event bound into the universe
> of cause and effect. 
> The problem with panpsychism is that if you can't
> measure the so-called 
> "awareness" of elementary particles, the alleged
> "awareness" can't affect 
> Chalmers's brainstate in any way.  Cannot be the
> agency responsible, in 
> *any* sense, for making Chalmers's lips move. 
> Eliminate the postulate of 
> panpsychism, and everything remains exactly the
> same, including the real 
> explanation for Chalmers's lips moving.
> 
Who said you can't measure the awareness of elementary
particles?  As I understand it panpsychism is a
general postulate which could be consistent with many
specific theories.  Of course I agree that there would
have to be some way to measure the awareness of
elementary particles, and no such specific theory has
been presented yet.  But I fail to see why you think
this renders the general postulate meaningless.
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