From: Philip Sutton (Philip.Sutton@green-innovations.asn.au)
Date: Mon May 24 2004 - 10:54:54 MDT
Hi Ben,  
> So far as I can tell, the processes leading to superintelligent AI are
> moving much faster than the processes leading to the global maturation
> of humanity, leading me to suspect that in fact the former will come
> first. 
At one level that's surely correct.  There's no doubt that the technology 
development is moving ahead apace.  But the trouble is that we don't 
just want AGI - we want friendly AGI and in a world of 6 (and rising) 
billion people who are not always all that cooperative and friendly it 
might be that not very friendly human influences mean that there's a 
high chance that the first AGIs to gain access to huge computer 
platforms are not designed or brought up to be friendly.
So in that sense I think Jef has a point that we need to get our human 
act together very soon.  
But my guess is the that getting our act together amongst humans 
need not be a 1000 year project.
I've been reading a book by a nonviolence researcher, Gene Sharp, 
whose works have been used in bringing down dictatorships in Poland, 
Serbia and several other places.  The US spent $1000m bombing the 
shit out of Serbia (which given what the Serbian military had done to 
their neighbours and to the local muslim population might have only 
seemed fair).  But the investment failed to dislodge the Milosovic and 
alienatd many people.  Then some parties in the US and Europe put 
about $15m into supporting a nonviolent movement and the dictator 
was gone in 1 year.
My reason about rabbitting on about all this is that when sensible ideas 
are applied to the change process, humans can achieve a lot more 
than many of us expect.  A bit more investment of time and money in 
these human development directions would yield great dividends.  And 
modest-level AGIs might be able to help with these directions.
Doing that might actualy improve the prospects of creating friendly 
AGI.
Cheers, Philip
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