From: Mike (mikew12345@cox.net)
Date: Fri Mar 12 2004 - 22:57:08 MST
I only see the same 10 games, no goodwin.  I don't use Yahoo.
Try this:
connect using Direct IP, enter:  192.168.0.101:2302
goodwin/goodwin, it's running now
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sl4@sl4.org [mailto:owner-sl4@sl4.org] On Behalf 
> Of Ben Goertzel
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:00 AM
> To: sl4@sl4.org
> Subject: RE: 'Singularity Realism' - A few thoughts
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > Also I think there's a lot the US (and other countries) could
> > do to reduce 
> > the risk of terrorist attacks on US citizens or US allies by 
> > changing the 
> > way the US (and other countries) relates to the rest of the 
> > world.  The 
> > terrorist attacks don't come out of thin air - there is a lot 
> > of history 
> > behind them.
> 
> Well, current US policy has many flaws, but it's worth noting 
> that a Luddite attitude underlies part of what pisses off bin 
> Laden and crew. These guys hate modern technology and the 
> cultural and psychological changes it has caused.  The US is 
> hated for some of its specific acts, but also because it's a 
> conveninent symbol for modern technology and culture (which 
> has led humanity away from the True Path, i.e. the 
> fundamentalist incarnation of Muslim religion...)
>  
> > By the way, can you explain exactly how you can escape the 'system'
> > via the singularity?  My guess is that, for those entities 
> that have 
> > escalating post-human brain power, the singularity won't feel 
> > that much 
> > different to business as usual with a high innovation rate - 
> > because they 
> > will be able to keep up mentally with the speed of the 
> > changes.  So if 
> > you think you'll be in there amongst the mentally enhanced 
> what makes 
> > you think you won't find 'the system' in there with you?
> 
> Philip, there will be no BUSINESS AS USUAL in an environment 
> of such rapid change -- the concept of "as usual" doesn't 
> apply!!  Having minds that are able keep up with highly rapid 
> change is NOT the same as having minds that are adapted to 
> stasis or slow change...
> 
> As for "the system", I think he was referring to the current 
> psychological/social/cultural/political/economic system, 
> which absolutely will NOT retain its current position of 
> power post-Singularity.  Though it may have power over select 
> subdomains, consisting of being who have chosen (or 
> potentially are forced) to live in a simulacrum of 
> pre-Singularity reality.
> 
> The fact that there will be *some* system, doesn't mean that 
> it will be the same one....
> 
> -- Ben G.
> 
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