RE: 'Singularity Realism' - A few thoughts

From: Mike (mikew12345@cox.net)
Date: Fri Mar 12 2004 - 22:57:08 MST


I only see the same 10 games, no goodwin. I don't use Yahoo.

Try this:
connect using Direct IP, enter: 192.168.0.101:2302

goodwin/goodwin, it's running now

 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sl4@sl4.org [mailto:owner-sl4@sl4.org] On Behalf
> Of Ben Goertzel
> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 8:00 AM
> To: sl4@sl4.org
> Subject: RE: 'Singularity Realism' - A few thoughts
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> > Also I think there's a lot the US (and other countries) could
> > do to reduce
> > the risk of terrorist attacks on US citizens or US allies by
> > changing the
> > way the US (and other countries) relates to the rest of the
> > world. The
> > terrorist attacks don't come out of thin air - there is a lot
> > of history
> > behind them.
>
> Well, current US policy has many flaws, but it's worth noting
> that a Luddite attitude underlies part of what pisses off bin
> Laden and crew. These guys hate modern technology and the
> cultural and psychological changes it has caused. The US is
> hated for some of its specific acts, but also because it's a
> conveninent symbol for modern technology and culture (which
> has led humanity away from the True Path, i.e. the
> fundamentalist incarnation of Muslim religion...)
>
> > By the way, can you explain exactly how you can escape the 'system'
> > via the singularity? My guess is that, for those entities
> that have
> > escalating post-human brain power, the singularity won't feel
> > that much
> > different to business as usual with a high innovation rate -
> > because they
> > will be able to keep up mentally with the speed of the
> > changes. So if
> > you think you'll be in there amongst the mentally enhanced
> what makes
> > you think you won't find 'the system' in there with you?
>
> Philip, there will be no BUSINESS AS USUAL in an environment
> of such rapid change -- the concept of "as usual" doesn't
> apply!! Having minds that are able keep up with highly rapid
> change is NOT the same as having minds that are adapted to
> stasis or slow change...
>
> As for "the system", I think he was referring to the current
> psychological/social/cultural/political/economic system,
> which absolutely will NOT retain its current position of
> power post-Singularity. Though it may have power over select
> subdomains, consisting of being who have chosen (or
> potentially are forced) to live in a simulacrum of
> pre-Singularity reality.
>
> The fact that there will be *some* system, doesn't mean that
> it will be the same one....
>
> -- Ben G.
>



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