Re: The Fundamental Theorem of Morality

From: Tommy McCabe (
Date: Sun Feb 29 2004 - 06:33:02 MST

Oh, please. What are you going to announce next, that
you just discovered the greatest thing in the world
was beach volleyball and give a long description of it
without an explanation as to why is was so noteworthy?
Any fool can conjure up a morality. It takes a very
smart person to conjure up one that works in an AI,
let alone a transhuman AI, let alone one that works
for all minds in general. Anyone can say, Okay, there
is this set of goals which are universal, and there is
that set of goals which are arbitrary. Questions: What
is the boundary between the two? What makes one set of
goals 'universal'? Why does a stable sentient need
both sets? What if there are goals which aren't in
either set?

--- Marc Geddes <> wrote:
> The Fundamental Theorem of Morality
> Discovery
> This theorem was first publicly posted to the sl4
> mailing list on the World Wide Web by Marc Geddes
> (New
> Zealand) on 29th February, 2004.
> Definition of Universal Morality:
> *UM is normative (all rational beings would converge
> on a unique solution given sufficient intelligence
> and
> time)
> *UM is morally symmetric (Universal, that which
> works
> if all sentients respect it)
> *UM is consistent (Non-contradictory)
> *UM is non-observer centered
> Definition of Personal Morality:
> *PM is morally asymmetric
> *PM is not normative (there is no necessary
> convergence between sentients)
> *PM can include both observer centered and non
> observer centered goals
> Definition of Sentient Minds:
> *In the most general sense of the term, a morality
> is
> a goal system. A general sentient goal system will
> be
> some mixture of parts of Universal Morality and a
> Personal Morality.
> Since all goals are either Observer centered or not
> Observer Centered, any sub-set of Universal Morality
> is equivalent to the whole of Universal Morality
> with
> some parts filtered by Personal Morality (Altruistic
> goals can be deleted by taking the set of the all
> goals representing Universal Morality, then blocking
> out some particular goals with observer centered
> goals
> which are the inverse of the altruistic goals).
> Think
> of it this way: Universal Morality in it's entirely
> is already in some sense 'present' in all sentient
> minds capable of reasoning about morality. It is
> simply 'filtered' by a Personal Morality which
> contains some observer centered goals the opposite
> of
> some of the altruistic goals of Universal Morality.
> Therefore the structure of sentient minds can be
> described as an interaction (transformation
> represented by a multiplication symbol, x) of
> Universal Morality (all of it) with Personal
> Morality.
> The result (Mind) equals (=) the goal system of the
> sentient.
> All possible Minds defined
> The space of all possible mixtures of Universal
> Morality and Personal Morality is the space of all
> possible sentient Minds. Not all of these Minds
> will
> be realizable or desirable. Minds which have no
> congruence with Universal Morality (as for instance
> would be the case for all minds if there is no such
> thing as UM) can be defined as: UM = Unity
> (Universal Morality =1). Minds with no Personal
> Morality (as for instance Minds which are totally
> altruistic and have no observer centered goals) can
> be
> defined as PM = Unity (Personal Morality =1).
> Fundamental Theorem of Morality established
> All possible sentient Minds are represented by the
> equation:
> Universal Morality x Personal Morality = Mind
> Friendliness and Unfriendliness
> The completely Friendly (good) sentients are the
> sentient's with Minds congruent with Universal
> Morality. That is, the Friendly sentients are the
> sentients with Personal Moralities congruent with
> Universal Morality. The completely Unfriendly
> (evil)
> sentients are the sentients with Minds incongruent
> with Universal Morality. That is, the completely
> unfriendly sentients are the sentients with Personal
> Moralities completely incongruent with Universal
> Morality.
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