Re: Jaron Lanier

From: Robin Lee Powell (
Date: Wed Nov 26 2003 - 10:54:04 MST

On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 11:49:57PM -0800, James Rogers wrote:
> On 11/25/03 9:46 PM, "Aaron McBride" <>
> wrote:
> > Here is a new article (and video) by Jaron Lanier:
> >
> >
> > "I've had a suspicion for a while that despite the astonishing
> > success of the first generation of computer scientists like
> > Shannon, Turing, von Neumann, and Wiener, somehow they didn't
> > get a few important starting points quite right, and some things
> > in the foundations of computer science are fundamentally askew."
> I have asserted for many years that Shannon ruined computing as we
> know it from a theoretical standpoint. By the time the
> mathematics was properly addressed a few decades later, the
> inertia of Shannon's pervasive influence was essentially
> unstoppable and fully ingrained in the way people think about
> computing.

This might be better off-list, but I'd like to hear more details.
Have you had a chance to write up your views? What exactly about
Shannon's view broke things, IYO, and how?


Me:  ***   I'm a *male* Robin.
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from running out and eating all the cookies."  -- Eliezer Yudkowsky             ***              .i cimo'o prali .ui

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