**From:** Rafal Smigrodzki (*rafal@smigrodzki.org*)

**Date:** Wed Oct 08 2003 - 11:04:02 MDT

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Ben Goertzel wrote:

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*> Regarding math, I agree with your comments; of course math is not
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*> intrinsically about the physical world.
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### If we agree that the qualia experienced by a mathematician while engaged

in mathematical reasoning (the epiphanies, theorems, mind-numbness, imagery,

numbers, confusion, clarity, and beauty) are all that we know about math (or

even, they *are* math), and such qualia are due to the actions of neurons,

which formed in evolution to deal with survival in the physical world, then

math (as we know it) would have a very intrinsic relation to the physical

world. In this way, math becomes just a property of the world - but then

perhaps, one could say that the world is nothing but math, a bit more

difficult than the math that fits into our minds, but still only math.

Rafal

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