wannabe programmers

From: jg nlb (comptelist@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu May 08 2003 - 05:02:46 MDT


For once this is a message I'd like to reply to. I really think there are
too few techies involved in the Singularity issues. One reason is that they
are in fact too busy by their current jobs to worry about the true evolution
of things.

But what I really think is what we need in fact is a non technical ring,
that will be more and more necessary to deal with emotional, stress issues
the more we reach the near singularity.

Therefore I suggest the people in the range 1:100.000 to send me an email.
Maybe I'll start thinking about something. Well if I have time and I feel
like it anyhow :)

The 1 in 100.000 range in not mandatory in my opinion since there are all
kind of different aspects to take into account. 1 in 1.000.000 can be
considered also I think. The main point is that people should clearly be
aware of what the "singularity" means, I think that's the only requisite,
although one cannot be aware 24/24 about this matter :)

Okay, that's a joke message, sent from France.

Jean Nguyen-Le Beulz

>From: Brian Atkins <brian@posthuman.com>
>Reply-To: sl4@sl4.org
>To: sl4@sl4.org
>Subject: Re: Singularity Institute - update
>Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 20:31:10 -0500
>
>Samantha Atkins wrote:
>>
>>I think there is a false assumption that useful people resources need to
>>understand everything about FAI in near Eliezer-like depth before they can
>>do a lot of very useful and needed work.
>
>Eliezer can correct me later if I am providing mistaken info here, but my
>impression is that over the past 3-4 years he has moved increasing further
>from the idea of providing detailed open access to his AGI design (note:
>this is not exactly the same thing as his FAI ideas of course). From the
>latest updates I'm hearing, it sounds like he has decided that properly
>implementing Friendliness is so utterly important, while also being so hard
>to grasp fully, that things look rather pessimistic on the open source
>front.
>
>So to sum up: the idea of even excellent-level programmers being able to
>jump into this without deep understanding is not an idea we wish to
>contemplate or encourage at this point. Hence, need for book.
>
>Here's a page he wrote about this recently:
>
>http://sl4.org/bin/wiki.pl?SoYouWantToBeASeedAIProgrammer
>--
>Brian Atkins
>Singularity Institute for Artificial Intelligence
>http://www.intelligence.org/
>

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