Re: META: Sept. 11 and Singularity

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Thu Sep 12 2002 - 18:20:50 MDT

Ben Goertzel wrote:
>>It does mean that serious, articulate posters who aren't yet 100% up to
>>speed should be tolerated, due to the reasonable probability that they'll
>>provide new ideas & perspectives...
> And, lest it be argued that a religious person couldn't possibly be "SL4", I
> actually know at least three people who reside in this intersection.
> Accepting the wild possibilities enabled by future technology *to the full*,
> yet not believing these necessarily inconsistent with their spiritual
> beliefs. I am sometimes baffled at how these folks maintain their total
> belief system, but they do!!

I am more or less of that group myself. Of course my views are
wild enough that many religious persons consider me a total
heretic and many non-religious people believe I am really an
atheist dressing what I really believe in religious/spiritual
clothing. :-) Go figure.

A lot depends on how religion/spirituality is held/viewed. Sure
the majority of the world's believers hold it at a mythic/power
God/"one true way" level that is indeed intolerant, pre-rational
and so on. But others graduate to rational and imho,
post-rational and tranpersonal/integrative levels of
spirituality. The "battle" is usually drawn against an early
stage of spiritual understand/development and/or consciousness.

But it is only relatively recently that I have got beyond
thinking there must be a battle and fundamental absolute
incompatibility inside my own psyche over these things.

- samantha

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