RE: How hard a Singularity?

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Wed Jun 26 2002 - 20:04:25 MDT


You'll notice that in my post I said that such a committee might make sense
2-3 years from now... not immediately...

I'm an optimist... the reason I picked that time frame was my own perhaps
overoptimistic ideas about Novamente's future AI progress ;->

Well, if some sweet funding falls into our lap, who knows, maybe we *will*
be at vaguely near-human-level AGI in 2-3 years... it's hard to tell. Most
projects take way longer than you'd think, but I've experienced some
exceptions, where after a certain point, things just really nicely fall into

ben g

> -----Original Message-----
> From: []On Behalf
> Of Michael Roy Ames
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 7:33 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: How hard a Singularity?
> Ben Goertzel wrote:
> >
> >I think that, if the posited organization is going to exist, we need
> >someone
> >to "head" it, and this shouldn't be me or Eliezer or anyone else
> with their
> >own AGI design and their own agenda to push.
> >
> Committees are only really effective when there is something concrete to
> discuss. Right now nobody has a working AI... nor is even close.
> Therefore: Please forget committees for a while. When we start
> getting some
> results, and are much closer to a hypothetical 'takeoff' descision time,
> then it might be worth laying out the decision before a group of people.
> Until then, it would just be a waste of time. And as for suggesting
> committee members: *way* premature. Putting together a committee
> like this
> could be done very quickly... its not like you need a lot of time
> to call 10
> or 20 smart, connected, people and invite them to participate in
> this kind
> of momentous decision.
> Michael Roy Ames
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