Re: singularity arrival estimate...

From: Evan Reese (
Date: Tue May 21 2002 - 20:51:08 MDT

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" <>
Subject: Re: singularity arrival estimate...

> Evan Reese wrote:
> >
> > I heard an argument from someone - Brian Hay? - that if you accept the
> > Copernican principle, then the chance we are living in a simulation is
> > It is more likely that we would be in a hierarchy of simulations. This
> > principle would be violated if we were at the bottom of such a
> > but it would seem that we have to be, since there aren't simulated
> > below us. Being at the bottom of such a hierarchy would be a special
> > position. By this logic, we are not in a simulation.
> The hole is that the bottom layer of the hierarchy may easily be the most
> numerous, for example if each citizen of an (unFriendly) society creates
> their own simulated civilization.

Yah, I see. I didn't think of that. Thanks.

But the scary thought occurs to me that if we are the simulation of such an
unfriendly member, then the Singularity will never happen because we will be
shut down before we can exit.

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