RE: Review of Novamente & a2i2

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Sun May 05 2002 - 18:30:08 MDT

I agree with Peter that achieving dog-level general is an extremely
significant step toward human-level AGI. I am not so sure that it's the
"real hurdle" though; I think there is probably another "extremely
significant step" between dog-level and human-level intelligence.

In fact, even though we have a system that more explicitly addresses
high-level thought processes, *one* of the interim projects that we plan to
do is effectively a "Novamente-powered digital dog". (Where, as in Peter's
post, "dog" is meant very very loosely, in the sense of a digital animal
that can perceive and act usefully in a reasonably complex environment.) I
agree with Peter that this is a valuable interim step.

-- Ben G

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 1:11 PM
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> Subject: RE: Review of Novamente & a2i2
> I generally agree with Ben's response to Eli's review.
> Specifically, I agree that Real AI (including Seed AI) will require a
> simpler, cleaner design rather than the kind of complexity that Eli seems
> to call for. Really understanding what general intelligence is, and what
> its essentials are, is the key to an effective implementation.
> Unlike Novamente, the a2i2 approach focuses on the basic cognitive
> mechanisms that lead to high-level thought (including reasoning & formal
> logic). We firmly believe that dog-level ('general') intelligence is an
> extremely significant step towards human-level AGI. In fact, we take this
> to be the real hurdle. This view is based on significant research, and is
> more than a vague intuition.
> Anyway - back to work....
> Peter

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