RE: Sadness on voluntary death (was: Singularity Memetics)

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Thu Jan 31 2002 - 08:08:55 MST

> I don't think we share the same feelings at all. My sadness on seeing a
> voluntary death stems from a viewpoint that is closer to a "feeling of
> oneness" than "individualism". I think the story of the universe gets a
> little sadder whenever a mind ends, even voluntarily.

Didn't you see the Lion King, Eli?

It's all part of the Circle of Life ;)

Anyway, my own attitude doesn't differ from yours much in the grand
spectrum. I want to upload badly, I have all my life, and I'd be most
comfortable if everyone else wanted to upload as well. But I have come to
see some value and integrity in the more nature-bound perspective, so that I
feel less saddened about it that you do. There is real beauty in that point
of view too. A related point is that death in modern Western society is a
sad and ugly thing, but this has not been the case in all cultures. Not all
novels should go on forever, some reach a natural end; maybe the same is
true of some lives -- and I don't mean this in a sarcastic or bitter way at

-- Ben G

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