Re: No Biological Singularity

From: Samantha Atkins (
Date: Fri Apr 13 2001 - 01:30:02 MDT

"Eliezer S. Yudkowsky" wrote:
> Brian Phillips wrote:
> >
> > Eli any thoughts?
> AI will arrive long before any true-augmented human could grow up. AI
> will also arrive long before uploading. AI may be developed before BCI or
> adult-neurohacking has a significant impact on anything, but not
> necessarily so.

I am not sure what you mean by "true-augmented" but augmented humans are
already present to a quite modest degree. Do you count hauling around
various computing and communication accessories as augmented? If they
are wearable? embedded? There will be quite strong pressures to
increase human productivity and competitiveness via this kind of
augmentation. I will be quite surprised if ultra-light wearable net
connections and computational power are not available commonly by 2006.
Despite some optimistic predictions I do not believe we will have full
AI before that. I would not be surprised by human implants by
2010-2015. So I believe we will have humans augmented to a degree where
they have improved memory, instant access to the net, high levels of
computational power and so on "built-in" before AI is fully on the

What is wrong with my crystal ball here?

> No AI would ever be interested in running on human biology except as an
> inscrutable philosophical statement, just as a human might theoretically
> translate verself into a gigantic simulated Babbage machine, but would be
> rather silly in doing so. This is all fairly basic stuff, BTW.

I am not so sure an AI would not be interested in running part of its
capacity in one or more wired human bodies. I am not so sure I can
categorically claim what such an AI will or will not do.

- samantha

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