RE: Ben's "Extropian Creed"

From: Ben Goertzel (
Date: Mon Nov 13 2000 - 23:05:18 MST

No, because the definition of the objective function in the optimization
problem is
ITSELF a big ethical issue...

What do you mean by average? Suppose you take the L^p (p'th power) average.

Different political philosophies may then corresond to different powers of p


> -----Original Message-----
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> Of xgl
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> Subject: RE: Ben's "Extropian Creed"
> let me think aloud for a minute. so the argument is not "what is
> libertarianism" or "does extropianism equal libertarianism" ... so what is
> it then? "what is the moral/political stand of extropianism?" perhaps.
> well, if we are to agree on a solution, we must first agree on the nature
> of the problem. so here is a first approximation ... a group of autonomous
> agents live together with finite resources; we want to gurantee each of
> these agents a floor of minimum resources and also seek to maximize
> average resources? does that sound like it's on the right track? and if
> so, could we begin from a clean slate and devise a sketch of a strategy to
> solve this problem? and if this were also done, couldn't we just call the
> sketch "a part of extropianism" rather than lump it with some established
> school?
> -x

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